Saturday, January 20, 2018

Expert Panel on Autonomous Cars: Rumors of the Death of Human Driving Have Been Greatly Exaggerated

A panel of experts who convened for a session at Auction Week in Arizona on January 18 had a clear consensus: even if the much-prognosticated "age of autonomous cars" indeed materializes, millions will still want to drive, for a wide variety of reasons.

Among the top motivators panelists cited for continued interest in self driving were freedom, privacy, digitally detoxing, and the satisfaction of using your hands.

Panelists included Bob Lutz, former vice chairman and head of product development at General Motors, McKeel Hagerty, CEO of Hagerty, and Wayne Carini, host of Velocity TV's "Chasing Classic Cars." The panel was hosted by Hagerty, the world's largest specialty insurance provider for classic vehicles. The company plans to stage additional town halls across the country this year to gauge the public feelings on driving. Hagerty has also set up a "Why Driving Matters" forum at

"This question of why driving matters is really the question of our time right now," said Hagerty. "There are millions of people who love cars but the story needs to change. What I'm seeing is the top of a lot of people's heads walking around looking at their phones. We've all seen it, we've all done it. It's very seldom you don't see someone not connected to their screen. I think there's going to be a backlash. I think in five to 10 years' time … more and more people are going to see the value in seizing their attention back, and I think that's the value of cars without a lot of electronics in them. I'm a different person when I'm behind the wheel not paying attention to my digital device."

Panelists agreed that self-driving technology – once widely adopted – will save lives, make commutes more productive and ease congestion in cities, but that doesn't mean people will lose interest in driving themselves.

"There's no need to panic, the transition to the future is going to take some time," said Lutz, who predicted that in 10 years people-piloted cars will be banned in major cities in favor of standardized self-driving modules that won't be individually owned. "(The federal government) isn't going to tell us we can't drive, they're going to tell us we can't drive in cities." Total autonomy outside of cities, he said, is still "way out there."

Lutz said autonomous vehicles are analogous to horses when mass-produced cars were introduced. Horses, he said, didn't go away, they just weren't allowed on the road. "The horse industry is still a gigantic industry and a wonderful hobby." People-piloted cars, he noted, will follow a similar arc. "There will be a spawning of motor sports parks all over the country, just like golf courses."

Carini emphasized the satisfaction many people feel in repairing, building and restoring vehicles. Cars, he said, are only about a century old and public fascination with them isn't about to fade.

"Cars are so important for all of us. The automobile is in its infancy, it's a little over 100 years," he said. "Being able to repair cars, you become part of the automobile and the industry, and it's so cool."

People have different reasons for loving driving, Carini added, but for him the best moments are driving with his autistic daughter Kimberly, who is familiar to viewers of his show. "It's a way where we really don't have to talk - she doesn't talk much. But we know that we're there together and that's what's important."

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